Episode 1 - Jack and Ellis Fish
Mario Kart.
That'd be a way to be a serial killer.
What's that?
And dress up.
Mom's,
like a little green or red turtle shells.
Just one more.
For their moms.
And then when somebody comes in,
take them out with
them.
Here you go.
All right.
Dark thoughts.
Dark.
I feel like that's also a good,
My brain is is fucked.
When I frankly.
Matty's maybe locally sourced.
Matty's? Yeah, I know the place.
What makes them locally sourced?
That fireworks store over in Bloomfield.
Oh, yeah.
That, I guess, is open year round.
The biggest fireworks store in the world.
How many?
How many?
Oh, how many biggest fireworks
stores in the world
do you think we're working with
in Tennessee?
Yeah. Wait.
If you ever.
You drive out towards
Knoxville ever on 81?
Yeah. Yeah.
You see the world's largest knife store.
Oh, that's how you get.
It's over towards,
Gatlinburg and shit, right?
Yeah. Yeah.
They have all those billboards
for all this
shit down there.
They also have a big boot store.
I think that one's kind of hard
to swallow for me.
Yeah.
World's largest knife store.
But then, Dude,
I was actually staying in a hotel
out there.
And stay in hotels.
Nice, man.
Fucking dumpster.
Red roof in there.
And just, like, peaceful.
Yeah.
I'm not getting shit.
You know, I'm an hour
closer to the muskies.
The ski bones, dude.
So I went to a Quality Inn.
It was like they didn't have.
There is, you know,
there's rigs everywhere, and, like, weird
rigs, trailers with fucking, like,
souped up dune buggies and shit, you know,
weird stuff.
Lots of weird stuff happening. And.
The cheapest room they had was $279.
What?
It's like, what the fuck is going on here?
And I got a room at the Red roof for.
I think it was like, 89.
Yeah, I would have been.
And he was like, yeah, you know, it's
normally 60 something.
Do the races in Bristol.
What?
I was out in Dandridge. What?
You had to introduce the whole way down
by what is that, Cherokee Lake or,
Douglas? Yeah.
I went fish
below that dam for a little bit.
What did that look like?
That's a big dam, right?
Yeah. Dude,
there are Shad floating around.
Fucking eagles.
Herons, Ospreys.
I was
just one of those times where I was not.
It was like this
is in there pushing fucking 14,000.
Saw shit coming up.
Pop a minnows off a surface.
I wonder if these were stripes
or something.
I don't know, man.
It sure fucking seemed like it.
I was throwing little Whopper floppers.
He'll plop tiny soft plastic.
You'll plop em up top, Yeah.
Swung some closers
and is just like, did I?
I just didn't have the.
I didn't have the fight in me.
It was all taken out.
I was dead inside.
I kind of felt that that way the other day
that Watauga.
Yeah.
It was the third time
I've weighed fish, that mud.
And the first time
I actually caught a fish.
And then the other day,
I just was like, man,
I don't feel like I'm going to get a bite.
Yeah,
there's just something there that I was
fucking tired.
I pooped in the woods.
That's the can be the best.
Can also be the worst
depending what wiping apparatus I have.
Wipes. Okay.
So that's nice.
Yeah. I'm. I'm very heavily stocked.
Where are your thighs? Burning thighs?
Yeah.
Do you find a good spot or.
Yeah I was, I was
I had been standing on the jet
for a while so my legs yet running.
Oh, yeah. Dude. Yeah.
So my legs were nice and warmed up,
but, dude, couple weeks ago.
Came out here and and just to
to kick the day off with my client,
we get down, make some casts.
Fucking sun's coming up.
I was like, I have to shit.
He actually had dude wipes.
Nice. Yeah.
And that one was kind of tough
because it's down on the horse farm.
And you put in at Jack's there.
Yeah.
And being up on the hill there
dude I was like
looking across the river
at the neighbors having coffee.
And so I kind of had to find a spot
and like really fucking tuck it away.
Power squat for.
Not not really
a comfortable amount of time.
And then a couple extra wipes.
So I was.
It's also one of those days
that, you know, it's
like fucking 34,
35 degrees in the morning,
and by nine it's like 55.
And then we're fucking
shorts and a t shirt by 1030.
Right.
We're a row and I've,
I've seen multiple risers, but
they don't excite me.
Yeah.
I just 1 or 2, just a little hang
up in there and I apparently.
Hold on. I'm wondering.
Yeah.
I need to
go up.
Came off somehow. That was sweet.
Yeah. This is the rock, cliff.
I was.
I saw a couple splash
aids down here on about.
Man. I got to try to recreate this fly.
Is that a not a version of the knife?
No, it's a d.
It's just a it's a me.
It's kind of like a mini sword. Oh, Jesus.
I think it's a number 1 to 650.
And then maybe a a light wire trout
predator light number two in the back.
Two beads.
Apparently, the right amount of deer here,
I know.
Right. Take out my goat or two.
What's that?
Right type of deer hair too.
Yeah, yeah.
I think I am going to go to.
A knife
and I think I'm going to burn.
Fuck yeah.
That was fun
catching a brown trout.
Wrecking a streamer off of a log jam.
Read you him burning.
I was not okay.
And he ate sort of mid strip.
And because I was strip
pause strip pause strip.
After he ate, I was able to strip.
And I set him.
That's a little satire right there for.
So what was the guy
you were saying about Carl was named
Carl Douglas.
Well, tell me about Douglas.
Douglas is 72.
Oh, and he had never fished.
Who am I before?
He was 71.
Warm and bobber.
Nothing
fish free.
And the first time he fished was
last year.
And it was a multiple day.
Trip up to the Madison for fly fishing.
Purchased by his wife.
Wow. Good for him.
Yeah.
I was just like,
damn, that's a strong fucking.
You've never fished.
And the wife
gets you multiple,
which you won't.
I'm gonna grab some Powerade,
some power juice.
Wife gets you
a multiple day
guided fly fishing trip.
Never caught a fish in his life trolling
worm and Bob.
Nothing. Bluegill, nothing.
Never done it.
71 years old,
three days on the Madison.
That was probably sit.
Sounds like
a cinch. Dude, look at this thing.
This thing to get fucking worked.
Sounds like he got hooked.
Oh, Douglas.
Sorry, bud.
So, man, it was.
It was okay. I mean.
I like to take every opportunity. Is.
If it's not in my, comfort zone
as an opportunity to either show
that I am capable or improve and.
He gets in the boat and I said.
What's the,
what do you want to focus on today?
And he said,
I want to catch a bunch of fish.
And I said.
Okay.
And in my head, just turning
that steering wheel
towards the telephone pole.
Yeah. Fuck.
Just. Yeah.
The the body language, the intonation.
I was like, this is going to be what's up?
Said Douglas. Sounds like a joy.
Yeah. It was, he was a he was a nice dude.
He's actually, and fuck for a year.
Dude, at 72,
I mean, he caught it was a tough.
But I even talked
with one of the outfitter guides
who came up to me, which I appreciated.
It was like tough fight this afternoon.
I was like, fucking right?
Which, of course
he was kind of looking to me to confirm,
but I was happily like, oh fuck yeah.
Okay, now we got we got ours.
Oh, Doug.
Yeah,
yeah, we got some.
That's actually got some like
a couple decent.
Wild bobos.
Yeah, yeah.
Which is always fucking weird
on this river.
Some of those.
Boats.
Horse rexes.
A nice little pickle.
Rick. Bo. Derek.
That doesn't count.
I've been crushing Rick and Morty.
Crushing it.
We're almost
doing something.
Bang!
Like.
Yeah. The.
The fucking characters do.
Shit. Cracks me up.
Yeah.
Those shows have remained somewhat, like,
unscathed, you know what I mean?
Yeah.
Like they're still doing the good stuff.
Do do do do.
And, what's his face?
The husband.
Jerry.
Just gets fucking shit on by everyone.
You haven't had a job in ten years.
Saw this guy.
He tied the sculpin little changer
and puts it on
one of those tiny Facebook groups.
But he put a little kick chain with, like,
four tungsten beads
from, like, here to here.
And then had, like,
a stacked warhead similar
to this under the.
Yeah.
Under the front of the shank there.
And I thought oh that's cool.
You know.
Yeah. To with no eyes.
No eyes.
Correct.
Yeah.
I have been encountering.
No eyes on that.
Jesse.
I've been encountering some frustrations
with,
anything but, like,
a metallic coated lead. I.
Those things get fucking blown apart.
And I just have this
pick of lining for,
At that box.
I have a small graveyard of what would be
great dungeons.
Oh, yeah.
Oh, yeah. We're in it now.
Here we go.
That's metallic.
So we're still good little,
little juke in there.
I have a little a little prime time
little.
Fuck off.
That's what we need out here.
These guys are all going to take out it,
like you said, either Jax or that
whatever that ramp is
that, you know, in the spawning section.
I don't know what time.
Ten something. 1030.
They made her the better key vision.
Put a move on.
And, dude, I'll go to the dungeon.
I don't care, I'll go to this store
bought dungeon that's got left in my boat.
I'll hang it on a rock and kiss it
good bye.
Okay,
I'll do the same fucking thing.
Jesse.
Oh goodness gracious.
Have mercy. That little Jesse.
What's going on
with the supports in there?
All crystal hair.
Jesus Christ, crystal hair blended with.
It's a three weight blend.
It's crystal hair with evil Congo hair.
EP. Fiber.
Okay, these are all fine.
Yeah.
Aside from the,
angel hair.
No, it's a oh, the flashing slinky
that I use all the time.
Oh, yeah. Dude, I still have.
Under water is the best blend.
It's, like super translucent.
I'm speaking in terms of a shrimp fly,
but, yeah, I guess I should.
I should
layer in a lens of nonetheless crustacean
to whatever you're talking about.
Yeah, yeah, just I don't know, dude.
I mean, I still went on some streamers.
I just,
I've been on that crack
that that, that was dark all over.
Now it's just sun
bleached to a nice, a nice.
Whatever color that is.
That take take a seat.
I want to fucking hold this thing up.
Where's that reloading for this guy?
That changer.
This. That guy?
Yeah. Dude,
go back there for a second
so I can show you this.
You seen the same?
Like,
that's a that's a nice fucking fly, dude.
Little chick.
A beautiful type deal
going on some translate.
You can really see the taper.
Is that the flash and slinky on the top?
Sorry.
No, that's the, Here I go.
It's the anchor
that is the,
That's fucking,
big game spirit fiber from flat tires.
Dungeon.
I need to put in order with slide
past dungeon.
Actually, that's pretty gassy.
That's the, Yep.
It's rigid.
That's the.
Yeah, well, but it's also soft, right.
I've been using it is on like,
some of the variants of the Junkyard Dog
as like a
scorpion helmet look,
because I can trim it with the razor.
Yeah.
And give it like a real wide,
you know, like those gills they have.
Yeah.
Dude, I had a what?
Watauga Brown below Trophy.
Trophy section bridge over on the left
in that little corner pocket.
Yeah. Fucking smoke this thing. Jesus.
Fucking stripped and perfect.
And you just came off road. Rotom
came right up on that sandbar
from that corner pocket.
Yeah.
What time of year?
This was in, like, February.
Yeah.
Yeah, dude, I've been checking the
I mean, a lot of those spots, obviously.
Yeah.
That one day we had man.
See, dude,
I think they get in there like that.
Like, that's like home range for those
fish that we catch all of winter in there.
Yeah. All right.
There went a little brown.
But I think they probably,
you know the they move.
I don't know I'm curious
how much in general
how much migration goes on.
In terms of spot moving to spawn,
obviously in this river, it's a lot.
How much?
Based on what now?
Like how much?
Those resident fish on the Watauga moving.
Right. Right, right.
I mean, dude, I've seen them down.
I've seen reds down in the fucking like,
below.
What is that fucking campground
stone fly me. And now.
Now down in the lake.
00000.
Like below that fucking last juicy
run on the right hand side
were below where you caught
your fucking big unit.
Oh, I know where you're talking about.
Yeah, on the right.
Yeah. You're talking about like.
But like two bands down towards the lake.
Like by the cows. Right?
So I mean,
yeah, there's going to be a bunch
that are fucking eating corn
and hot dogs up
on Siam Flat.
Or to the I, I ever seen folks out there.
Bunch of reds up above.
On that.
Tell out where we fucking.
Oh, Kevin. Travis.
Oh, yeah.
Dude, there's always a couple nice reds
in that shit I kind of hop seed into,
possible redfish in there one night.
Guiding and
had some guys fishing spooks
and just got fucking blown
apart twice down there.
Hooks went
if there wasn't a line attached to them
after
they came out of the water,
they would have gone 150 yards
and maybe 50ft into the trees.
So no,
no fishes, but God damn do the noises.
And then just that,
that first little half of,
before they blow the set, you can hear it
roll and like, oh, God damn.
But it was right.
Right where Katie was.
And then, he was a specimen man.
Oh, my God, he was fucking birds.
Fuck.
Fucking burned into my brain.
It's it's
so is
both the fish I have.
I have two of these very similar vignettes
burned into my brain.
One was Katie up there,
and then you, afterwards,
and then the, all you were
you were all the way down.
I think it was one of three times
where you went full squat hat off.
Yeah.
The other the other time,
fucking theater room
was dude coming down below
Sycamore Shoals.
I like coming up to the VFW.
In that shoot,
I was having to fish that right hand.
Yes, yes, yes.
In the middle below the island, Yeah,
I remember that fish.
You fucking move that unit, dude.
My dad moved him on, I love it.
I never seen him since.
I think I may have had a guy
hook him once.
He was red two.
Yeah, dude, that was another.
That was another hat off moment.
Yeah.
What do you think in here?
I mean, I guess we just keep moving
because. Yeah.
I mean,
if this guy ain't got some traffic up top,
do whatever
you got to do to get through it without.
Yeah, let's just move bumper. But.
For fucking stud though, I know.
Oh move on.
Yeah. Little little pecker head.
Definitely not a stud to me.
Wasn't his fault.
They shoot. Oh.
Do we live in a simulation?
We'll come back to that.
Damn dude is buggy spot.
I know,
that's
why they're all fucking parking down
here.
You know, Aaron route.
Tough drift.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
See you guys for two days.
Yeah.
Dude, he moved a fucking monster muskie.
Yeah, yeah, dude, that comment all there,
he just say that?
Yeah.
Damn it, little,
little pecker on the two hand.
Did you, that comment you sent me
with the killer? Yes.
Yeah. Yeah.
Dude, I was fucking dead.
That guy was so serious.
I don't know if he was, but
it doesn't matter if he was dead serious.
It's hysterical if that's it.
I mean, dude,
the other comments on that post are
they're talking about,
me representing the First Amendment.
Because they, as in
like the handful of, you know,
six and four year old
white males getting triggered
that I used, profanity, oh.
No way. Really?
Oh, dude, there's like dozens
and dozens of comments,
and that's because it was super viral.
Dude, I was fucking dying.
Then you see, guys like muskie anglers
in their, you know, 20s or 30s,
one of them said
replied to someone saying great fish.
But the profanity,
the language is totally unnecessary.
Dude replied, does
your dad know you're gay?
I, I've never had to stop a 60
or 70 year old.
Yeah, I've never had a post
with that much engagement.
So I look at this guy said to me
on the internet, yeah, I don't look
at other posts into the comment sections,
but oh my God, is it funny?
But so many people agree.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
It like,
is there no other way to describe a fish
other than using profanity?
Yeah.
Like.
Sure. He's
his people generally aren't.
So if someone's angry about something.
Yeah. Right.
But it's I'll tell you what.
It's not a muskie.
It's not a muskie post.
Martha.
Yeah.
Martha, this boy is telling me
that my father knows I'm gay.
Oh, you see that little pecker
right in the hole
just won't come screaming out at you.
Yeah. Just didn't finish your off.
The old quick look,
that was good.
These days you're going to pause
at the boat and get smoked. But,
not today.
I'm. I'm a little,
not not ever.
Don't do it on an, What's the word?
Synonym for rusty.
I'm practiced.
When?
When I want to make sure
I'm in too long. Not.
Yeah, I know when I want to make sure
I'm not on practices for fucking February.
Yeah, dude, the minute that togs
starts clearing up, how do you just fish
aren't getting any bugs?
Like there's no bugs.
Come on.
Yo, 60 the other day, like 60, 60 degrees
like up I love that.
That's full on. Wow.
Like massive, massive lake turnover.
Yeah. Aaron,
he'll be listening to this.
That motherfucker.
He came in fish with me
last year and like,
he's he's
good at casting and retrieving and,
it's just you get on this boat and
you start doing the thing, and it's a lot.
It becomes a lot really quickly.
And then it's like, pump fake.
Let it let it chill,
work it differently through this scene.
Now all the all the crazy shit
he was
fishing lights the fuck out
and we stuck one fish.
Yeah, like I would do.
I've picked a part
in the ballpark section on foot.
Dude.
It happens every late October
when I don't fucking hate that.
October is a busy time of year.
It does. It really does.
It's that late turnover.
Yeah.
My buddy, I had my buddy Ben Briggs
come out two years ago, dude.
And it it it was right when the leaves are
all in the water, you know?
Yeah.
And it was so brutal.
Yeah.
You can be fishing.
I put our cameras, the
some of the puzzle pieces
snapped together for me.
Having this dude
who guides on the Catawba stocked
private water.
He is saying the hardest thing he does
is teaching clients who don't know
how to fish, how to fight in a big fish,
because catching him is not hard, right?
But all of a sudden you have someone
who doesn't know how to fish
with,
A 27 inch rainbow trout on forex right?
But, yeah, he fish his balls off, dude.
And he had his mom come to.
I saw kind of, you know,
you can't do anything about it, but
we fish the rise.
He stuck a 21 in like no man's land.
Below lover's.
Like in front of that.
In no man's land.
On the other side of the skidoo. Haul,
just fucking out in the middle of it.
Looks kind of skinny as it was rising.
And then we moved one
through big water
and he was fishing really well.
And then we moved, like six
when the water shutting off,
it was like that
big water during the, turnover.
It was fucking poison.
Yeah, well, dude got a fish on over here.
I definitely think there's something
super fucky that goes on.
Obviously.
But I just think that now this mud.
The water is obviously not ideal
in terms of all the conditions
that affect the water.
Price move on.
Oh, we saved it, dude.
Juicy bag over there.
Yeah. About.
Holy Christ.
Like.
I'm waiting for a leviathan
to just come out
of one of these little pockets
and just go.
You know, like,
they're not getting any food.
Dude.
What's that?
They're not getting any food.
Oh, yeah, because there's there's,
like, a light penetration going on
in the water because of the clarity.
Sure. So the bugs aren't hatching
if they're normal.
No, they're fucking not.
And you were fishing low water, right?
Do that. High water.
And my thought was, okay, it's super low.
You know, we got some mud.
So like if, if I can get it on their nose,
we might get one to go, you know. Right.
And and maybe a big one too.
I was fishing up there.
Up above where the Stony Creek dumps
in, in between there and saying, like,
we're all that deep stretches.
Yeah.
And like where it's slow.
Yeah. Above or below the top of the chute.
Like I park in there
and walk down river and.
That's where you saw your
your heavy hitters last year, I think.
Yeah. Me and my dad were in there
and we saw it.
I mean, they're all getting staged up,
probably to spawn at Stoney Creek,
but do they're loaded in there.
Okay.
But any new
nothing.
Nothing to show for it.
It's kind of spooky little section,
Who just saw that flash
finally give me a kick.
The only issue with this flies
in the shade.
It's impossible to see.
So the tough sheriff guy,
he makes like rugs.
Yeah. Oh, I gotta hit him up.
I think it'd be cool to have, like,
something cool.
He probably makes doormats and stuff.
Oh, yeah?
Yeah, yeah, he makes some cool shit.
He's a graphic designer
by trade, and I'm getting this wrong.
But I think during Covid.
Maybe
started working from home
and stopped working
as much as,
I don't want to say stay at home dad, but
five and seven year old, I think he and
his wife just started working for, like,
he works for Google, I think.
No shit. He he's really good at grass.
Yeah, dude, he's thrown out
a few different client names from, like.
A damn, bro.
And yet during that process of.
Of follow,
of working from home and
starting to fly to.
I don't know which came first, but,
I think I think he had said,
we might get this,
Jesse Young, he had seen videos of
people doing it, and it was just like,
yeah, I can fucking do this.
What is going on with me right now?
Okay, one wrap to wrap.
Three, three times, lady.
Yeah.
I'm on.
Oh. That was the issue.
You were wrapped around yourself.
What's that line there? Oh, no.
Holy smokes.
Oh my God.
Oh my gosh.
Yeah.
Lucky it's
got to be stuck on the hook or something.
What are you.
Oh, you little cunt.
Oh my gosh. Bad.
Holy fuck.
The old rodeo.
Where does the bottom section
start and finish?
It starts above Weaver Pike Bridge.
The spawn section.
Yeah, it's right up here.
Well, I'm the one on the lower river.
Where does it start?
I can't remember Weaver Pike
bridge to the bottom in the next island.
I think.
It isn't that a juicy little drop off?
What's up?
Isn't that a juicy little drop off
over on the right?
Yes, it is.
Do do do do do do do do.
Boom! Oh!
Yeah.
We got some risers up here.
Do we, in this section for hundreds.
Fucking sweet.
You want to take a crack at them?
I'll switch you.
Yeah. Yeah.
I'm not going to turn that down.
Let me launch
one out to the right here, and then we'll.
Oh. Come up and get your own dinner.
Lunch early lunch.
All right.
Hey, we got a couple looks on that.
Yeah, we like that round changer.
This is my second day
on the on the bucked up.
Yeah. You like it. You bulked up. Okay.
Well that's what fucking matters exactly.
Why do you put my fucking head
through a wall. Go.
Okay.
Not that one.
Let's do this.
I'm genuinely curious
how that dude is driving a wagon here.
They're brand new.
It just come out.
I mean, there's also it's the most.
It's like the most expensive SUV
possible possibility for
overextending oneself.
Absolutely.
I feel that.
I might have ease up on those four paddles
here for a second.
Where are you? We are. Holy shit.
They go below this guy by chance at all.
Holy shit.
Oh, he's fucked up.
Let's splash.
Had a little bit of mass to it.
Come on, ref!
There's a couple life
farther over on the left. Here
that are also out of his range.
Right here.
I'll squeeze over.
I had a guy
give me shit last year
for fishing in the spawning section.
I was like, right in
front of the sign were fishing.
I was fishing some clients on risers.
I just like.
Because you're all over social shows,
social media, shitting on other guys.
I was like, bro, I put a picture
up of someone literally parked on a red.
Oh, someone's
getting fucking marked in there.
Slide over.
Eat it buddy.
Who? It was another guide.
Yeah.
I wonder who was. He was not happy.
I, I didn't say
anything that would be considered
a calling or friendly.
But I know.
It was.
I saw that branch right there
out in here, right behind 100. So.
Yeah. Yeah.
Get them on the backside of there.
Thanks for the tip.
Oh. Where is that?
That was right below this first branch.
Right here, right below the little white
tip on. Oh, yeah. Kind of.
See the room right in the soft stuff?
A little deeper in.
Yep. Ass right where he was.
Maybe a foot further in,
but further in that way.
But to be honest, yes, moneybags.
On his face.
I want some.
Give you some predictable fucking risers.
Yeah, there's a bunch down this left.
This far left. But.
Try to stay off his column.
There.
Yeah.
I wonder if this in this situation,
you go.
I don't know, just because there's
so much life on the water.
If you if you just go bigger
or. Dude,
dude, double dry.
That will dry.
Oh, caddis season I love.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah.
Bro, the problem is,
I was I was just about to say you should
come down to the white with us this year.
The issue is as doing your businesses.
Well, I did
I don't have a fucking busy season.
Like, I was a little bent out of shape
this summer
because I thought that I'd be.
I thought I was cooking with gas.
Like July was.
I mean, I'm hard on myself.
It was.
It was better than last year.
But all I mean,
like, when is it
not apples to apples here,
but like,
part of the reason
I think I told you the other day.
Oh, dude.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Hold on one second.
All right. There you go.
I think I told you the fucking other day
that I overleveraged myself, like.
And I just said about me,
and it was because, like,
fucking,
like, do work for us has been shit.
Yeah.
We've lost so many clients due to,
like, them not having the money to spend,
you know,
and obviously they don't value
the service enough to continue
spending on it
when times are tough. Right.
But like, there's like the last year
for us business wise.
And I mean, again, I'm
not blanketing saying
that every business is in this scenario.
But for us, the economy
has definitely played a large role.
Wow. That was a fucking laser beam.
That was a really good cast. Got
that was a howitzer.
Dude, how are you not in that.
100% has played and I'm just like,
well like didn't you didn't
I mean, like, it's everywhere.
Yeah, it's everybody for sure.
It it's,
level. Yeah.
You know.
Yeah, I've definitely seen it. So.
What is that fucking sign that I was on?
I think it's down here a little further.
Yeah.
So I'm just like a great eyes on that.
There's no doubt in my mind in it.
Like.
If you had a better year,
how much better would it have been
if it was an election
year? Wasn't a shit economy.
Yeah, dude, they.
The jobs report for October.
They projected like 100
and that like well over 100,000 jobs.
They had 12,000 really.
Which is like the worst one.
Like in many, many recent years.
12,000.
That's like, this is
getting to my voicemail that I left you.
You have to listen to that
to get a full context.
Yeah, well, I figured you were sleepy
this morning because you're.
So I set my alarm at 630,
and you were driving in North Carolina
to fucking fill out nine different ballots
and try to get your camera,
you know, get your fucking booted, dude.
And my thing is, like,
you know, like, I don't even think
Trump's a great option, dude.
He's like,
I just know that things were better.
That is it.
Things were economically bad.
Groceries were there.
I got red pilled
and I'm not like on the Trump
train yet, but given the trajectory.
Yeah.
If this if how I
feel now took place last year
there might,
we might have a red hat or something.
I mean,
well and here's the thing.
It's less of,
Eight years ago, dude,
I would have considered myself
as blue as it gets.
And like, the more I hear from Trump
and and the people that support him, he's
got Bobby with an
it's like, dude, that was huge for me.
He doesn't give a shit
about so much of this stuff
that is political fundamentally,
you know, right wing, far right.
And dude, I had
I had just fallen
hook, line and sinker
that Trump was a racist.
That blow up like all this shit.
Oh, I mean, and I mean, it's
good to be on the other side of it, but
you, I, I mean, the last,
last couple years, it's been
seeing things.
Oh, God. Seeing things clearly.
But like 20, 21, I was like,
Holy shit, dude, I got fucking duped.
Yeah, well, dude, my thing is, like,
I just like,
dude, I think if it were like,
you know, you brought up.
But I mean, you hear him talk about it
a lot, like I think, look at this.
Trout swimming under the surface,
you know.
Oh, yeah.
Look like a fucking large amount back.
Now, dude, like, I think if the Democrats
were the Democrats of
that era, I'd be a Democrat to Wolf.
Same with fucking Trump
that was registered Democrat and a donor.
Yeah. Like like through the 90s. Yeah.
Like they have fundamentally changed.
Yeah.
Dude we're fucking
yeah.
Fucking studs laying on this ground
down by Tracey's dog
like two years ago to me.
First of all, here I saw one of the most
impressive brown trout.
So fucking giant.
Really dwarfed by a trout
I saw at the white River behind
one of the docks, eating rainbow
fillet scraps like a fucking tarpon.
Dude, you look like the Goodyear blimp.
He's probably like everyone.
A nice one right there.
25 pounds.
No other one of the white. Yeah.
I don't know
if he was kind of stubby like, I think,
like,
that was the only thing holding back.
But his girth in width
and shoulders were truly so impressive.
He's probably all right.
He's definitely up
close around 30, but dude is tell
it's like this big around dude.
Like just meat. Just meat.
Like he his his head was like,
you look like a Great Lakes.
Like like run brown trout.
Some of that shit I'll see on like
I don't spend much time on YouTube, but
it's still God,
if you fucking log on for a second.
It's just like I fucking
watch all his shit. The,
pot ski baits, and of course.
Yeah.
They didn't show on the white or here
on the target, right.
With like, neon green minnows.
They dialed.
That.
Sounds familiar.
Dude, I had a fucking 83 year old catch,
a 23 inch brown on a chartreuse.
No yellow
garlic worm.
Really? Yeah.
He was.
This is one of the.
He was fishing this little this rod
that was about
with and flopping.
This included conventional reel
that like this that long
little Japanese jobber
and dude, he had all the confidence
in the world, you know,
and he baitfish
some creeks up in Virginia and
we did a couple different things and
he missed a fish or two.
And he was just like, dude, I like,
can we do this?
And I was like,
fuck yeah, we can do that. Yeah.
And he was what also cracks me up
is that like.
You're an interesting thing.
You know, that was like, dude,
traditional fishermen
have been taking fives.
Now drag dragon mealworms.
Exactly.
Wax worms, mealworms,
fucking nightcrawlers.
And they fish at the exact same
where did you do.
Oh yeah. Yeah,
yeah, yeah, yeah, it's net rigging.
Yeah, dude, it's like that shit's.
There's a couple little guys
we're gonna see if,
down here.
I don't know if this water level, the net
where they'll be hot.
Do you? This clarity is
spooky.
Yeah, yeah.
I mean, like, by all accounts,
it should be like, you should put it
on one's nose and he's fired up
like he's not the the clearness.
This should help us.
Yeah, I think we're going to rip it.
I mean, there is a nice fish.
Yeah, there's a little ones.
So there's a rock ledge on high water
that fucking all those giant like,
who sit on his right up here to the right.
It's under this, these two trees.
See? Subzero good.
Like slides in right here.
Too fishy.
Yeah. Like, look in here. You'll see.
It's like a big.
I don't know if we're gonna go see that
deep.
Wait. That it start right here.
There's a good fish right here swimming
going down.
Dude, where'd you get buddy?
Oh, man,
I want to see one of these fucking.
Oh, yeah. That's a pool.
Yeah.
See, like big old
fucking weed bed to the fucking bottom.
Man, I can't see shit now,
little guy.
A couple more, couple more is decent.
Yeah, just roll on something.
I think before he got spooked.
Just a fuck pile of them now.
Yeah.
Yeah.
We need, like, another ten feet
of visibility in front of us.
Probably the.
See the big dogs?
Yeah, this dude's fucking mansion.
He just moved.
A couple
big dog.
Yeah. Gone.
There's a decent one.
That one that just scooted off was.
That was a real one.
See you see, you see.
And there's a fucking shitload
14in in here.
All right.
Let's see if there's a giant right here.
Tracy's dog.
And you
see a lot of trout swimming around.
Yeah.
It a lot of trout.
So how was Lukey?
Lukey is.
He was born on July 17th or 18.
So you don't even worry about it. He.
He'll be five month.
Oh. Wait till why?
August.
August to what's after September?
So he's two months in September.
He was three months in October.
So he'll be technically
I don't know
he's he's like 15 or 16 weeks,
but he'll be four months,
technically speaking.
Oh my God, they're everywhere.
You got in like milestones.
Yeah I mean he's on track.
He's doing really good.
He's short dude, he's really short.
Like, he's definitely short.
Well yeah.
Yeah, I mean, I can't do much about that.
Yeah, my brother's short.
I think he,
I think he's going to be sick. No.
Like I think he's going to be big bad
wolf up.
Sarah's dad is short and thick.
My brother is short and
thick, like, very,
like athletically short and thick.
My dad is, like, taller and thick.
My dad's like, six foot, like 220,
but pretty athletic build.
And I kind of like.
I'm significantly taller than my brother,
but I'm shorter than my dad
by just that inch or two,
but way skinnier and thinner.
How much is your dad running?
He's like 220. He's pretty big, dude.
Like, he's a he's,
he's,
a very like
he's not like, I don't I won't say stocky
says a really big kind of thick, athletic,
tall build.
I mean, he's not 68 or whatever,
but he's still in pretty good shape.
He just shot a seven by seven on Thursday
morning.
He's just getting back and going
to get help and butcher this week.
Big bastard.
He shot seven by seven.
Yeah it's a big one.
Fucking did he
he always he's just patient man.
He sits in the same spot
and he just waits.
He doesn't rush getting ready here.
Yeah sure is.
It looks like there's going to be one
right there.
See I don't think
they're quite doing their deal quite yet.
But now they're not.
We're up here on Tuesday
Sarah and I came for a walk,
and we walked across the bridge
to see if there were any Giants
Lane up there by the greats,
and there weren't even any Reds yet. So.
Just a gorgeous river, though it is.
So your dad just posts up and yeah, he's.
What does he shoot him
with? He's got a good knack for.
He's like a fisherman.
Yeah. Fishing and yeah, that's that
some some cave man
or woman in the lineage
with fucking some animals up.
Yeah.
And he dude, he just is like,
for example, when me and my brother
hunt, like, we'll sit in our spots, we've.
He's hunted the same area in Colorado.
It's called bull.
Don't put don't put that on the internet
actually.
Okay.
Delete that.
Yeah. He'll fucking massacre.
Anyway,
they've been getting these Mexicans
who showed up out of nowhere
the last few years causing problems.
They've been like trudging
through some of the areas we like to hunt.
Man, that's a great bucket
over there. Yeah. No shit.
Anyway,
like, for example, with me,
my brother don't see elk in our spots.
Like the first two days,
we'll start hiking around and trying
to, you know, go find him and
try to sure look in dark timber
where they might be lay in or bedded down,
or we just start moving around.
How long are you guys camped?
They're there for almost two weeks.
I mean, do they have a whole setup
like tent that sleeps, like six?
They're not cold or starving. Eat. No.
Do they eat like kings?
Like they have a cook tent?
They have a shower tent.
So you shower every like 2 or 3 days?
They have a furnace in there. What?
You know, we cut a bunch of firewood
the first day we get there.
So you're not cold. You you.
We're all sleeping
on comfortable cars with little, like,
roll up memory foam mattresses.
They have this system dialed.
We rent horses, so we ride horses in
and pack the elk out with horses.
God, that's fucking awesome.
Yeah, I mean, they they've done
a lot of homework to get it to the tent.
Like the tents.
Not some, like,
little pop up tents, outfit or tent.
Like this year
they got like a foot of snow.
They don't care.
I got some, they got like pane windows.
No, no,
I mean, I've seen, I know what you.
Oh, yeah,
I know what you're talking about.
The clear the plastic.
Yeah. Clear plastic.
I've seen,
sky was showing me some shit from,
you know, going to Alaska.
Yeah. Hawk.
Alaska trips and,
dude, some of the fucking.
You sent him pictures.
It's like, like a two story tiny home,
like they're fucking. Yeah.
And they, you know,
they set up the whole thing in there.
Yeah.
I mean, it's, baller.
Like, when we drive all the gear,
they store it in Pennsylvania.
A couple,
the guys that we hunt with a farm,
and they store it there and get it.
Big U-Haul trailer.
Every year
they switch whose truck they drive out.
And then the first day they set up,
and then they fish on the Colorado River
for 3 or 4 days before the hunt.
God damn, dude,
the Colorado River is like, ridiculous.
The upper sections they fish are like,
dude, you can go catch 30 fish in a day.
No problem.
I call him boom, boom boom
bottom like every cast.
So they love that
the lower Colorado isn't like that.
It's got more
big fish but less population.
So what?
What do you shoot an elk with?
I have a 300 Weatherby mag. He.
He has the same.
My brother shoots, shoots in with,
What is he is maybe like a 2018 hustler.
I don't know, but he has.
You ever had one?
You had the fucking knife or some shit?
I've. Dude,
I fucking wounded one one year.
That definitely probably went on to die
with their tough dude.
Yeah, something like I shot it.
It dropped and it dropped in an area
where I could no longer see it.
And then my buddy was over
on the other side, said, oh, he dropped.
He's good. Then he was like,
oh no, he's crawling.
Like he's still going uphill.
Like crawling, dude.
The motherfucker got back up and like,
took off.
We tracked him, came, found him,
jumped him up, couldn't get shoot.
And we took off and we found.
So we let him go for the night.
Come back the next day.
We found where he bedded
down, rolled around in the snow.
Blood
everywhere. Jesus followed his tracks.
He got back up and joined
back up with some other elk.
Holy fuck.
So I mean, he he succumbed in some way
or another, like bear
got eaten by a fucking mountain lion or.
Yeah, lost too much blood.
But I think he he was the way he had,
he had a whole area, a hole opening like
where he was rolling around in the snow.
I think he was trying to clot
his. Oh
put pressure on it. Yeah.
Like driving himself into the ground.
Yeah.
Fuck, dude. So that was a bummer.
I was really sad about that.
And you know, I fucking wounded him.
Didn't kill him.
Yeah, but my dad shot in. Where you.
You shoot him once, twice.
You got to shoot him three.
Yeah, four times the one.
I shot a five by 5 in 2020.
What does that mean?
So five, five points on each side.
Got it. Okay.
Certain regulations that you can't shoot
like, you know, small ones.
Sure.
What have you.
I can clear this.
I don't know, there's
a nice little rise in here.
I think we're fine.
Yeah.
Like,
as long as that brow tines are legal,
which is the first big horn that covers
their kind of eyeball area.
And then.
Or they got to have the. What?
So, you know, the big horns that come out
right here on a deer and elk.
This is called brow tines.
And if they have brow tines
and then if they
also have four on one side, there
we go. That way either
so you can shoot like a little spike,
you know.
Yeah I'm one.
But I mean
routines mean forward off the antlers.
Correct. Got it. I was thinking, dude,
I was thinking like a boar.
Just the first point on the.
I'm fucking retarded if I don't know
what deer antlers look like.
And I think the main purpose of brown
brow pines is to.
When elk fight,
it helps protect their eyes.
But in 2017, you have to.
Yeah, yeah, that's the minimum.
When they get. No, no.
That one on each side. Yes.
So is this giant.
Is this a one by one.
If they only had brow tines.
Yeah, but it had to grow off the main beam
so it'll be a nut.
So there's just one beam.
Do you ever just have this.
Maybe genetics are way fucked up.
Okay, but.
So that's why brow tines are like
a criteria to make sure they have.
Because,
I would say is fucking retarded.
Because they, they don't,
they'll grow like their main being first.
So you, what you're talking about
is called a spike,
where they won't have brow times, but
they'll have two horns coming up. Just.
Yeah, yeah. Little nuts. Nice. Yeah.
And some spikes, bro.
They, you know, if
their genetics are fucked up, like you get
a big ass spike, you know,
I can definitely squeeze
through over to the right.
I think we can probably float over.
Send it right here.
Bucket.
Unless you let me go
over by your motor or.
I just don't want to beat up
your boat on this.
I just did,
I appreciate it, but, So.
Yeah, but, dude, he's just patient, like,
he just wait.
Like he don't care if he doesn't shoot
and how to sit in his spot.
It's a good spot for days.
For days, like five, six days in a row.
Just send me fucking bags.
One every year.
And he always shoots a nice.
So why is there.
Oh. He seems to shoot a nice boy.
I don't understand why.
Is there a point? Why?
What's a
what's a, you know, eight point buck?
Is that for a whitetail deer,
an eight point would be four on each side.
So it's the same thing.
It's actual points. Yeah.
Where they, you know, they, for whatever
reason, for elk, they call them,
ax by ax. Yeah. Yeah.
Which is each side.
But like,
you're asking about double brow times
when elk get really big, like a big,
mature bull can grow double root hundreds.
And that's when you start
getting like seven by sevens,
eight by eight, which are like trophy
trophy malts, like my dad's probably shot
like 3 or 4,
which would be the equivalent of like,
you know, 26 inch brown trout
or maybe 22 footers.
I don't know,
you're getting a couple of those
if you're good.
Yeah.
I mean, shit lives clean a lot.
Really? Yeah.
Like when I think about how much he's
hunted, I'm like, man,
I hunted every year
for the last 30 years out there.
Yeah, like
you just, you know, the numbers are.
Dude,
some of that stuff I've been thinking.
Just observing people fish
because, like, you know, first
couple of years here, it was just like,
fucking incessantly fishing, right?
And a lot of it was finding fish
and catching fish and advertising.
Then a lot of it was fly design and,
kind of patterning, seasonal stuff and
trying to just fucking get out
when it seemed good
and figure out what the fuck's going on.
Right.
But like, the more I'm watching people
fish.
You know, you know, when you have that,
it comes down.
And even though generally speaking, we
sort of want it ripping off the bank and
but sometimes it just lands a little foggy
and then peels down
and the clarity is doing something
and it gives a fucking kill.
And your body is just like, oh,
it's about to get crushed.
Did I see that happen with people that.
Have very little experience in fishing.
And I just I keep going
back to what you're talking about with.
Some some buried in them.
Right. It says
this fucking thing you've never done.
Yeah.
See, what's crazy too is I think, like,
if you went back, like, say, and you were,
you were a guide in 1980.
Yeah. Can we switch?
Yeah, sure.
Say you were a guide in 1980 or whatever.
You fished 100 guys a year. 150.
Feeling a little too much like a princess
up there.
Oh, you're good dog. Someone.
Captain Morgan,
take a piss once we get through this. So,
You know,
so let's just say they're males
for the sake of saying they're males.
Sure.
The years 1980, you fish 150 guys.
Sorry.
I'm ruining the the,
I think that's.
Do you see the,
you seen that clip for the tournament?
Bass angler,
quote unquote. The,
the caption was, you know,
someone Lee pissing on the competition.
He's got his dick hanging out, fishing,
two hands on his rod,
two hands on the fishing rod,
and he fucking pulls a fish in.
You're kidding.
While he's urinating,
it's like an active stream.
Yeah. See?
Tell me you don't give that guy a spin rod
or even teach him to fly cast.
And he doesn't come.
Just start raking fish. That motherfucker.
That's what I mean, dude, I'll say it
a million times over.
Let's see if a task in
the day is to land a fish on a streamer.
And I have
a client or angler. One.
Who has been quote unquote, fly
fishing for 20 something years.
I don't think any of it really matters.
But he's never thrown
a streamer
or a seven way or weighted line.
And then angler two.
My other choice is a fucking 17 year old
who fish his farm ponds
with a bait caster and spinners and do.
Is that because he has that shit built in?
He has that moment of oh, that looks.
Yeah, exactly.
You don't have to fucking teach it.
You don't have to say faster, more, right?
Shorter but faster.
No, that's longer. Shorter but faster.
Just bigger stop. Like an abrupt tap.
Tap throwing darts in your pocket.
Like you don't have to teach that, right.
It's it's built
in. It's like a caveman instinct.
But the thing is to
I think as we go generation
and generation further into
the higher ness.
Yeah, we, you know, the percentage
of those people where, you know,
like I said in 1980, fish 150 guys,
maybe 100 of them have that built in.
Now you fish 150 guys,
60 of them have them built.
You know what I mean? Now here we go.
Fuck is that
is that because let's say you're fishing
the entire population of humans?
Do you
think that number dropped precipitously?
Or do you think that just not
as many people are fishing?
Or like, do you think that we're getting
further away?
Like, I see what you're saying.
Yeah, I think I would say it's
because we're losing it.
Yeah. Because things are easier.
We have more technology. We have.
And also you have a lot of states, aside
from the hotspots for fly fishing,
like Tennessee, like Colorado,
I think you're losing a lot of anglers
like saw the muskie for the fall guys
talking about that in Wisconsin.
They're angler.
So their license sales are way down.
You're good
right to the left of these guys.
Well there is also
I mean what are you comparing to
because not you them.
What are comparisons made to. Because
fuck two when I moved here,
people were going out of their minds.
Yeah.
The outfitters because dudes are working
like Nick and Justin and Rat
and Chris at the time,
working like 60 days in a row.
After Covid
shut down and stuff for like a week.
Guidance specifically.
And then for like a week, it was
half days only
and then it was fucking full till.
And since people couldn't
go to the fucking movies right.
Or to a restaurant
and we're getting checks or bowling.
Yeah.
I mean, it happened with deer tags too.
Yeah.
Well, here's another interesting
one that I told you about the
the influence on the fur trade
that I noticed through Buck tail.
No. What was that?
That's interesting.
So it's been damn near impossible
to get people
to get processors to
big unit.
Yeah.
Now he's maybe 16 to get processors to
save the tails.
And it's just like an extra staff
and blah, blah.
It's like, dude, you're throwing him out.
I'm paying you for your garbage, right?
And it's because they used to.
And this was the first year I got here
is much easier.
And I knew them much less.
I did not know them as well.
And they would
they would dry or they would wet
salt hides in a trailer out back.
She was fucking gnarly.
I know what's interesting.
They get well, they get 7
to 10 bucks a pop for the hides.
And this year I went and talked to them.
Thankfully,
they're going to start freezing details
for me
this year, which holy fuck, thank God.
Half the ones I pick up, I just can't use.
But he's saying that they're
they're doing two bucks a pop,
which barely pays for the salt.
And, you know,
the effort is just so they just.
And it's been happening one from,
you know, whatever to 7 to 5 now to two
because there's such a high surplus now
because there's no fucking demand.
Like the fur market three years ago turned
like mink and shit.
What are there's little like stone stokes.
What what caused that,
disposable income
different.
Not like it was a very weird,
very peculiar
effect of
the economy changing from Covid.
Interesting.
Like, I was reading on some trapper
that's very deeply into a
a rabbit hole,
reading on some trapper blog
or like, some, you know, forum that
it's it didn't make any sense for this
dude to trap in and kill Stokes.
I feel like that's an animal.
Okay.
Like a little weaselly thing
because there was so little.
Yeah, it just,
not worth the effort.
Yeah, he'd have to.
He'd have to bag, like,
300 of them to get anything.
And, you know, it was like a some sort of,
you know, 600% drop.
We're going left or right. Let's go left.
I don't know, right.
Could be cool to.
So I'll picture someone stuck
a big one over to the right
a couple weeks ago.
There's so many fish in this section
right now.
I'm glad it's shut off
because they'd be getting fucking pounded.
Every little nook and cranny has like 3
or 4 juvenile trout in it.
Well, do you see?
Fucking so Denver, so lib hard, so woke.
They're trying
they're trying to pass two bills right now
and they're both for the outdoor
community.
No goes.
And I actually don't think either of them
are going to get pass. We'll see.
The first one is the ban mountain
lion hunting.
Huge mistake.
There's a round right there. Yeah.
If they ban mountain lion hunting
it'll be a mess.
They'll be fucking eating people's
dogs and cats on the train.
It'll be an issue.
We'll also. Can you do that with farmers
again?
Same with.
Okay.
They've got a couple popping up now. Yeah.
So that's one.
The other one is they're trying to ban
all fur sales
in, in Denver County or wherever.
And under what pretense?
If they do it, the fly shops
aren't going to be able to sell materials.
So they're trying to get
if it does get passed up.
Dude, I feel like there's the rumblings
started in this a couple years ago.
Is that right?
I'm not sure,
but I know you told me about it.
If they're if they do get it passed,
they're trying to pass like a stipulation
that fly shops will still be able
to sell natural materials.
But I'm like,
it's just so ridiculous.
Do we have, like, you know. So hold on.
It's it's not just that the procurement,
the trapping of animals would be banned.
It's that selling fur, not just mountain
lions, any any natural materials.
Right.
And they're targeting people
selling like that,
you know, fur coats and shit like that.
You know, it's, you know, people
don't think that's ethical, but it's like,
dude, people have been doing that shit
since the beginning of time, right?
And like, what people don't understand
is certain animals like deer,
if you don't regulate the population,
they'll be everywhere.
And guess who's the biggest lobbyist of
of hunting for
deer hunting is car insurance companies.
Because guess what?
If we don't shoot deer and eat deer,
all of a sudden people will be hitting
deer on the road all the fucking time.
Is that true? Yeah.
Well, I mean, I know that it's true, but,
I mean, it makes sense to.
Yeah, because it's like,
especially in your suburban neighborhoods.
Right. In suburban Ohio. Yeah.
Deer there is.
Yeah.
And I forget, I was I was too young
to know the details about it, but
I think it amounted to like,
you know, a tag or a limit.
Double or something like,
well, like you had one
or you had two in the county,
and it's like if you're a hunter,
you could go for three and four.
Yeah. Oh, it's in South Carolina.
My dad can get like five,
six deer tags a year.
Yeah.
Do there are you'll shoot them and
just give the meat away
to people who need like yeah
they're starting to get sporty
a couple these cold nights.
I've seen some,
moving around.
Yeah.
I mean, I've seen em moving at night,
and I've seen them, last movie
during the day comes along the way.
Where's your.
You're so you're moving out of the place
you're in now, which is where.
All right, I guess so.
Oh, no. Jones. Jonesboro. Yeah.
I was actually looking at a place to buy.
I was like,
you know, I've seen.
Yeah, I don't really have much cash.
But, you know.
Oh, dude,
I don't want to fucking rent again.
Yeah.
I mean, dude, having a house, I feel like,
like, on one hand,
I'm like, man, it's a pain in the ass.
I gotta fucking do all this shit.
But the other side is, there's
no way anything I could have, like,
it's just it's it's
better than pissing your money.
It's just pissing.
Yeah, yeah, and I get that either way.
You're sort of pissing
money ones to the bank and.
Yeah, one's the interest in.
You're hoping
you get some appreciation, right?
But dude,
at least it's fucking mine, right?
What? It's moving right there.
I hear something a little stoke.
Yeah, a little stoke.
Fuck.
I hope we throttle a big donkey.
What do I want to run?
I'm going to stick with that change
or I think.
Hang on.
Yeah.
Dude, I think this house so cool,
dude, it's because, like, you know,
in the rental.
Like the the dryer vent
wasn't really attached.
Well, and it was putting out some lint
behind me.
First of all, I don't really care,
and I don't like that.
Second of all, I did repair it,
and I kind of like doing that stuff.
Right. And it's I did it for jet.
I did it for the guy who owns the house,
and I didn't even fucking talk to him.
And, you know, spend eight bucks, right?
It's done in 15 minutes.
And I feel good about something.
And, our dryer works a little better,
but like, that
ultimately is not my thing, right?
Not your not labeled your responsibility.
Well, it's just also like, it's
almost like I don't own,
like, if we put in a fucking garden.
It's not my garden, you know? Right.
I'm just.
I'm planting a garden on.
You're also like,
say you make the garden really nice
and it adds value to the house.
You just added value to somebody else's
and prefer.
You know what I mean. So there's exactly.
So there's a number of things
like the front porch is Jesus, dude,
did you go down the aisle at Lowe's
and look at the different lumber
and like he picked the first one
for everything in the fucking house?
Yeah.
It's like non stained lumber
for the outside.
It's just fucking falling apart.
Yeah.
Like I'd like to have dinner out there but
oh my god dude I sprayed.
There were wasp nests on like
multiple points.
Not just corners.
And I sprayed
and I could fucking hear them
crawling around
in the fucking roof. Did.
And the,
I gotta call you on.
See, I haven't seen many fish in this area
floating through it.
Legal.
Kaboom!
Yeah.
I don't know, man.
I just like
what I want to do
is fucking like, I don't know.
I think there's something to be said
about, like,
not owing anybody any money for anything.
Yeah. For sure.
Obviously is hard to do with, like for,
you know, like it's going to be very hard
to ever own a home
in cash till you're older,
you know what I mean?
You've lived somewhere a long ass time
with the disparities between housing cost.
Okay. Yeah.
Your wages, it's wild.
But like, shit's really upside down.
Yeah, I did go.
I spoke with the realtor
and I was like,
is there any type of,
you see anything coming down?
She's like,
nope, definitely not in this area.
Well, that's what I was thinking.
Do. It's like,
I just felt like fucking in that, like,
this area is kind of fucking blowing
up, like, what would we go to?
You know, we're always on
whatever that is.
1111 Bristol Highway.
They're for one thing or another
and it's like, dude, Johnson City
has fucking traffic right now.
You know, you go over by the mall,
there's a lot of people
doing a lot of shit.
Lots of people doing a lot of shit.
Lots of people.
Got some moss.
I love fucking with the dry fly.
Fishing here on high water.
I love it.
I like this level, dude.
This water level.
Yeah. Yeah, I know. Right?
So what I'm saying, like,
why not just make maximum flow 1600
instead of 22 and bring up
the minimum flow to this
or or fucking make it
make high flow 1400 or whatever
you need to,
you know,
discharge the same amount of water.
But I guess
then maybe that's not a high enough level
to generate enough power.
So I guess at the end of the day,
that's really all they care about is
their electricity generation
and flood control.
The flood control.
Yeah.
God get munch.
Dude, dude, I know one.
I'm a big fucking fish, you know?
Live in this.
Wrap it all the fucking time.
Finally can get a
fly in front of a little bit.
That thing is getting me fucking hot
and bothered.
Damn. It's fucking life.
Drives me nuts.
Fuck you all cast through it out there.
Hot and bothered.
I tell you what.
Somebody kill me!
Please.
Is that for the wedding singer?
Yeah, yeah.
That's sucks.
That's my anthem
for both March and October.
Yeah, yeah.
Just getting
pounded by the wind.
Blow water, clear water.
Giant sun.
Dude, I don't know.
It's tough to know.
What's worse, it's definitely
having someone pissy on the boat
who doesn't understand the situation.
But when you have two guys and me
and all of us know the score, and it just
is a fucking shitty day of fishing,
it it, dude,
it's like we're all trying it.
We know that it sucks, right?
Well, do I mean, like.
That's
what it does is
I feel like this tough two people are,
you know, here to help, you know, like,
but I do think that you spend 500,
607 hundred bucks,
you get a fucking hotel room,
you got gas, you're paying for food
for your kid, right?
You got a bunch of jerkoff
putting up pictures, a 32 inch trout
that they pull off of reds.
And so you had these expectations
that it's,
it's the same. Yeah.
It could happen to me.
It could happen to me. Yeah.
Today. Not fucking today, but. Yeah.
Oh, like you said, I think two.
Do you want to go sit in a spot for
three hours and get some live chat then.
Then we might be talking business right
into.
I just think it's like that
I think is a net.
Oh fuck yeah, dude, get one
bottom.
God damn me on the two hand.
And then a fucking new easy dude.
I thought it was a stud.
Fucking give me some blue nuts, bro.
Blue balls.
Oh, damn.
I was waiting for that thing. You just,
be some big, hyped out Jesse.
Yeah, well, I think, like,
you know, like you said,
social media fucks that shit up, too.
And it's like,
I don't know.
Like anything,
people want something for nothing.
That's right.
You know,
they want to come and smack their big fish
because, you know, it's so awesome.
That happens to everybody. It's easy.
And it's just not the reality.
Yeah, and then
some days it it certainly is.
Right.
Tie a fucking decent sized
hook to some fishing line
and move it through the water
and get chewed up.
Well, that's the thing too,
that I think the really good anglers
understand is like, hey, like, I could go
and hit bad conditions, so I have to go.
Five years in a row.
Yeah, for three days each,
you know what I mean?
But you know.
This is another
look at that heron
chilling.
See how it's winter. Yeah.
Maybe a little fucked up I don't know.
I don't know if I've seen that before.
It looks like they're turned front.
I feel retarded saying that.
It looks like they're turned front.
Yeah. I wonder if his head is spun.
You think it's.
I wonder what?
No. His feet are facing the same way
as his head.
See, these are the spooky spots
that you can't even think
about hitting correct on the byju's.
Yeah, these little pockets.
Yeah,
yeah, I get fucking mind.
Oh! Someone's in there.
Fucking
turn around backwards on a hydraulic.
Yeah.
Get in there.
I want to fucking die.
Put a bullet in my head.
Oh, fucking.
Come on, bruh.
Oh, my gosh, look at this shit over here.
Hello, sir?
Yeah, yeah.
I got this, yeah.
Oh! Get fucking rat!
How about up here, You little Jessie?
So I'm thought of.
The Fifth Third bank
doing mobile deposits out here.
Jesus.
They're all right.
I'm checking to report a couple times.
Yeah, dude.
And that fast shit. Yeah. Yeah, bruh.
For fuck's sake!
Damn it!
Bobby,
I want to switch to.
That was some likely water.
Oh, that thing's getting fucked.
I did.
Love sex.
Yeah, yeah.
Boy oh, boy, oh, boy.
You want a packet of tuna?
Sure.
Don't feel obligated to say yes.
You can have it now. Later.
I'll have it later. Okay.
You want the hickory smoked
or the buffalo?
Hickory smoked.
Okay.
Word.
City.
That's what I'm saying. It's like,
why do we do it?
It is fun.
Oh. I'm saying,
why do we even pick up a fly?
Yeah, that's
why I'm. Because fly rods are fun.
Okay.
Yeah.
I mean, we might have caught 30 by now.
Follow.
Oh, no.
See, you could probably get the RuPaul
again.
Dating with all kinds of crazy
Japanese lugers.
Oh, my God.
Never saw way some fucking insane shit.
I think I might need to get.
Get re dialed into that.
My buddy.
And for me,
my buddy Anthony from DC
came out and fished.
I met him through this dude Morgan,
who I met through Mr.
Dangling Arm and all of unmasking fish
a little bit.
They're both really fucking twisted
in the head.
Like fun to hang out with.
And they came out and fish and dude,
it was just a
one of those dog shit days.
Dude, you know what I hate about those?
They always happen when you got, like,
people that you my fucking boys, dude.
Yeah. Or like.
And they're good friends. Yeah.
And Anthony was wasn't,
you know, he was picking up the fly.
But it's not like that was his thing.
And so like, that's not the fucking time
to gain anything really.
Right.
I throw you over the seam over here
where you check it.
Yeah.
I'm going to be recalled.
Be with you very.
Yeah. No rust.
Just generally speaking.
Dude, Anthony was
what we're we're getting, like,
most of the way through the day.
And we started up top.
We're down at brownies and it's low water.
It's. It was a long, hot day.
And Morgan is started up top.
Yeah. Wow.
Morning.
What's up?
Jake out at singer
A? No.
We went all the way down.
We went all the way down to the lake.
Got out like 11,
13 hour day.
Morton starting to get a little quiet.
You know, we're
we're half way through the day.
Fishing is fucking sucks.
We're not getting water.
Sun's not fucking changing, you know?
Yeah.
I handed him and
Anthony a spin rod Reese's cup,
bottle of water.
Lit them up.
Dude, that boat was on fire
in, like, 20 minutes.
And then Anthony were coming down.
That last shoot in the Persinger
Anthony was in the back.
We get down the chute,
I could, like, feel him turn around
and zip it back up and the ripping current
and just the first time
he's ever trout fisherman Griffin jam on
my 23 point something inch brown.
And then Morgan got in the chute
above Persinger up there in the low.
The islands. Yes, dude,
that's where my guy.
Yeah, yeah, he's right.
Yeah I think about that.
He's at the bottom of the chute.
Yours is more at the top right.
Okay.
Well if you stay left
you know where you go left
and you drop right into the first part
before it merges.
Yeah.
He caught it right before it merges
like almost off the tip of that island.
Okay.
Here's the sort of right to that island.
But yeah, that's lower than I thought was
know, like in heavy water.
And then Morgan got a fucking.
Early 30s.
Young 30s, 33,
34 and striper by the waterfall.
Oh, that's sick on the old the dead Drift.
He's trying to undo braid coil.
Why his his braid was kept
getting caught in and got eaten like that.
No, it was drifting.
We were, like up by that little cave.
Where am I going?
We were up by the little cave.
Like after the wall ends.
And I was just like, dude, let it out.
Like, let it out in this current
and keep letting out, keep,
keep, keep,
let it out like all that fucking shit.
And then another 50 yards.
All right, click, engage the real one.
Turn blue.
Nuke that.
Just watching that profile
float down the water.
And then it moved a little bit
and he said, oh, you're fucking.
This thing's getting torn apart.
Oh no doubt.
My mom.
Oh. Might have been a little rainbow.
Little musky.
Oh, God.
You'll pickle sunflower if you want to
hang him up.
I've been thinking
more about direction to,
presentation.
Yeah.
In what capacity?
Just how much they, like, seem to like
down the river, like motoring past them.
Yeah, I think it's probably just more
of, like, something that looks like food.
Yeah.
And it's like, oh,
I gotta eat it or not. But.
You know, like, yeah.
More deer.
When, when that I was one of their fly
line starts.
Where's that.
Well,
I don't know if I'm over there. Yeah.
I kind of wanted to check on
one of them.
I think I can get a better hold on. Maybe.
Yeah.
You got a little zoom.
Little thing? Yeah.
When the fly line starts to get bogged
and pulled downstream, and then they're
sort of swinging it back right?
Just kill me, dude.
Recast it.
Nice.
Come on.
Isn't that what down on your right here?
Some dig.
You're going to hit it.
Yeah.
I don't know if I'm going to spin that.
Nice.
Okay.
There you go.
Can you tell me
there's not a mid 20s in there somewhere
right now?
It's just perfect.
I just see the big gold roll. Wow.
I don't know what that was.
So I was a little dude in.
Good man.
He's a good baby.
That's tight.
Yeah.
Sleeves for
a good two plus hours at a time.
And some of those turn into three plus.
Yeah. Eats well.
Nice.
Yeah.
Doesn't have a problem latching.
It eats formula,
but it's not picky with temperature
or anything like that.
Oh, little bagger, come on.
Maybe. Mom.
Jesus.
No surprise.
Yeah.
He recorded one.
Oh. Bullshit.
I like that all the back.
Too much.
Get a little sporty through here.
Yeah.
It's cool to see all this shit like this.
Kind of in the water, out of the water.
Not so low.
Just can't get through any of it.
Jesus.
Gosh, she looks fucking juicy,
My expectations are two out of
whack with the spin rod.
Give these.
Vertical rig.
I fucked up.
I should have went with shorts, man.
So the one with shorts?
Mine.
Wow. What are these?
Damn.
Got some exhaust fan.
Yeah, a little bit.
Must be crazy.
Let's talk about this boat.
What's that?
Even if you can manage to blow
a gaping hole in it,
you can just take it
to any metal fabricator.
Fabricator?
Yeah, anywhere in East Tennessee.
And just be like fish and be done.
This is a fucking chunk of aluminum.
Well, me,
I need a chunk of aluminum right here.
The jet boat.
Dude, it's I think the hull
is like the boat itself is
late 70s.
It has had some stuff happen to it
and had things fixed on it.
That didn't shine well.
I don't.
Would you mind?
Do you have your phone out?
It's right under the.
Light.
Would you mind texting Jeff?
I already hit him
up. Oh, fuck. Yeah. Thanks, dude.
Yeah, we. Gooch.
I do need to pay him now.
I'll do that now.
I think he'd move it anyway.
Oh, for sure.
Yeah, I,
I try to pay him on time, but
I pretty routinely get,
get between a 25 and hundred dollar tab.
Oh, Jeffrey.
Thankfully he's been,
remembering
to to hit me with a Venmo request
because otherwise, like, I definitely
don't want to short him on stuff.
And so I'll just I'll on, like,
you know, I'll look at text
messages and then what I pay in
Venmo is like that video on cash.
Like I thought,
I just give him three trips worth and.
Whatever.
I also try to throw him
an extra 10 or 20 bucks here
and there to.
Get munched.
Oh, God.
Can you imagine just floating through here
and fucking
trying to drift a little bog
into a trout sitting on the bottom?
It's just not fun for me.
See? Like it just flow.
If there is a situation
where I can visibly see them.
Sure,
they were not sitting in water like this.
Like, even if I could see them in here,
I don't think this is like
they're sitting in a riffle.
You can see him in their feeding.
I just can't fucking out.
That would be more fun.
Man, this whole fucking edit,
this flow, Yeah.
I thought we might see some crossbows.
Damn it, Bobby,
I think we're okay. We're okay.
Yeah, I was gonna say.
I thought I saw it
wiggling on the other side.
Dude, that's
where the fucking big dog comes out.
Yeah.
The trombone player.
The old crimson rusty trombone.
That's a nice old trout
in front of that rock.
Right where he should be
sitting on a cushion.
I see no big feathers.
This one not large.
I mean, causing
some fucking problems down here.
I like it.
I just had a miniature
panic attack in my head
about because I was like, fuck,
I didn't leave just the keys.
And then I realized I didn't fucking
bring it back.
Yeah, I already had that panic attack
and just checked my pockets again.
I was like, no.
Someone come out of there.
For real?
Down the chute.
We go. Down the chute.
We go.
Whoa! This water.
Down the chute.
We go.
So how are you guys spelling?
Callin k or a c c a l l a n knife.
Knife.
Which was thankfully,
I don't know.
That name is interesting.
It was almost a joke, but then.
Not really, because we both
listened to this book on tape.
And a character was named Paladin.
And he's he's a fucking badass.
Yeah.
I like how
so was like unique.
But it's not fucking outrageous.
Yeah.
It's not cashed in.
All right.
Time to fucking
mow one down.
No one down.
That'd be a nasty rock to hit right there,
That one? Yeah.
Kind of inverted a little.
Yeah, that probably would suck.
Oh, this looks so fucking gas.
Maybe I might.
Just.
Do the fact that we haven't
gotten nuked in here. But.
I do feel like big time.
Timmy.
Jim's coming up, though.
Yeah, I agree,
they always like to try to surprise here.
Just get one of those
little fucking shockers, you know?
Yeah.
The frog water shark. Yep.
I got to move you a little closer.
Nice shot.
Out of the shade line. I'm.
Come on! Ref,
no shot. Should he.
Oh my God!
That little white
pile of leaves just stopped
my fucking heart
gave me a mini stroke.
And they are pissed off about something.
The next section
I'm excited about is below.
Bullet collar.
Obviously, we could stick an absolute
megalo giant down in the weeds.
Down in the weeds and bullet collar.
Yeah.
Laying on the bottom.
Oh, I felt like it was going to happen
there.
It didn't.
I kind of had all the right.
I was looking away.
As bastards,
I like that sandy, gravelly bottom
couple weeds.
I know there's fish down at Thomas, right
above the boat ramp.
I was waiting fishing there the other day.
We've been taking Luke and Sarah
just sits in a little fold up chair
milking him.
Yeah.
Malcolm, and just hanging out.
Seems like doing anything
really other
than fucking sitting around the house.
What the fuck was that?
Fly in the water. Okay. On your back cast?
Yeah, yeah, it was like,
damned most aggressive.
Draw it seen all.
Damn. Day one.
I think you
see, like a hog sitting
behind one of these logs or something.
Yeah.
You would fucking think.
Jeffrey.
Eel. Max.
I've been trying pretty hard.
I know we can't even drum up a follow
from these
bastards.
One drink a little more Powerade.
Power me up.
Oh, that's the good stuff.
Oh. Oh, little guy playing.
Is the best way to stay hydrated right
here.
Drink a little. Oh, yeah.
Just now it down.
You know, give it a little flavor,
a few electrolytes.
I'm on the power train.
There's a Gatorade in there for you, but
I'm over the Gatorade.
You're on blue Powerade.
The packaging says
that they have 50% more electrolytes,
which sounds better.
And they have less sugar to.
We had blue
Powerade at the cafeteria in college.
Did you murder it?
Oh my God. Also had good ice.
Andrew is probably sick. Yeah.
It was lots of fun.
Probably a lot of hot women. Yes.
Yeah.
They had something called Veiny goggles.
It's where, sec. Women.
A-plus chicks are dating like c-plus
dudes.
Just because, like,
there's so many hot chicks
and so many, dudes
who are, you know, just come from
silly amounts of money.
How do you think it is?
Right on in the boat.
Okay.
Five.
So I was thinking to.
For whatever reason,
it feels more like eight.
I think that's accurate.
Yeah, it is.
I think.
We're to go up first.
Left or right?
To the corner.
If they ever sold this house.
Somebody. Yeah.
Right now.
And they had this hooker.
Listen, for so much,
was this one listen for 1.9 million?
I think they did sell it.
A lot of no dude.
Yeah it is.
$1.9 million.
It's a lot of them.
Yeah.
I feel like, I'm,
I comfortably do not make enough money to
I can,
I can kind of appreciate that number.
You know,
when you start to get into, like,
tens of millions,
it's kind of.
You know what?
The age of the French broad.
Dude, I guessed it.
Oh, my God,
I have no idea what it is.
But I was like,
you know, 75,000 years now.
Right. And,
then you start to, like,
relate it to your life
and you're like, oh,
my God, I'd be lucky to live 100 years.
Oh, dude,
I've been doing that a lot recently.
And it's like, well, fuck, what's the
point is where I get to pretty fucking.
Well, dude, I it's basically like that.
My point is to have a good time
and, usher
my daughter and my new son into a life
where they
unfortunately, my perspective has.
Oh, come on, you little fucker
is still I've.
But I think you're right.
That is the point.
Be nice to people.
Have fun.
Yeah. Experience the earth. Yeah.
And good person.
And if you have kids
and if you have kids, you fucking
try to get them to do the same thing.
Not the exact same.
I don't care if Greta is
wants to design clothes
or she works in a butcher shop.
Like if she's able to do something.
That she enjoys
and is kind.
I fucking I killed it.
Yeah.
Which is so backwards because,
you know, the successful parent
and the successful child,
at least how I grew up
is based on career descriptions
and job titles and salaries.
And it's that's
actually the opposite, right?
That unless someone happens to really
deeply enjoy that
whatever line of work.
Right.
That is unnatural to human beings and.
Yeah.
Really what your day to day
was supposed to be like, okay, I'm
going don't go wander around
and look for my next meal.
Been at build shelter, you know,
going to make a fucking
jacket out of this beer.
Hide.
Can I hit that bird with a rock?
Yeah.
I'm going to go try a bunch of times
today I'm going to fashion a wooden chair.
Like, imagine how happy everybody be
if we're doing shit like that.
Yeah. But somewhere along the line.
We got,
fucked up.
Which at the time, I'm
sure people thought it was a good thing.
Oh, everybody's going to be able
to do something,
you know, be able to do this, and
then you can do whatever makes you happy.
And it's like, turns out fucking really?
What makes everybody happy is what they've
been doing for the last million years,
because that's how you're wired.
Why not, you know, makes you happy enough.
Dude, I can't feel it.
Well, I want
I can believe I can believe everything
now at this point,
because things can still be tough.
You know, relationship is challenging.
Even with good kids.
You know, I'm a very intentional dad, and
it takes a lot of energy and I can easily
feel stressed out, which is from
my own bullshit, from my dad.
But, like, you can,
you know, you can get in your head
pretty bad, pretty fast.
And generally speaking,
I think I skew towards having
and like, dude, there are motherfuckers
that literally don't do anything
they like.
I know, like, go to work, come on,
watch TV for their whole fucking life.
On the weekends.
I just do nothing.
For their whole life,
we're going to pick up
a big following here.
Right.
Which is wack, like you said.
It's like,
what is the purpose of being here?
Well, not that that's a fucking waste.
And I'm not even talking like,
metaphysically,
like, oh,
you know, value your time on the planet.
It's just like, bro, we are going to die.
Generally speaking, very quickly.
And I mean, Jesus,
if you're just fucking sitting around.
I know
we've talked about this
with with relationships for, like,
the propensity for people to sit around
and be unhappy and just bitch.
I've been depressed.
I understand what that feels like.
But like,
man, it's a fucking choice you make
or you've made it easy to do so right?
And it's actually,
you know, to be a victim is.
Easy is very easy.
And and you're in good company, right,
with a lot of other miserable people.
And it's. How hard is your life?
And then you fucking.
Owe it.
You know, it's like.
That's why I think you hear
so many stories of people.
Like when,
when do things really flip around?
It's when it got so bad
that you couldn't sit around, sit around
and feel sorry for yourself anymore.
Yeah. Or whatever.
You know, you hear the stories like, oh,
you know, the the telltale plod
is how I hit rock bottom.
And then I did something great.
Well, it's
because it forced you to meet you.
You know what I mean?
You were so uncomfortable that you could
no longer sit around and be.
Yeah, unhappy or whatever.
You know, whatever the case is.
Can we get a fucking cloud?
Jesus.
Jesus said 48% cloud cover today.
Last night, when I look 48%.
And that's another thing
we got fucking social media drawn us down.
Meteorologists
don't know their dick from their hand.
Everyone you're supposed to be outside of.
Feel it in your plums,
not stand in front of a green screen
and tell me what's coming.
I feel it in my plums
that the boy, what did.
I mean, I was already fucking
crying from him.
And then watching Danny McBride
and I feel racist
not knowing his name.
But Darryl from the office.
Watching them just.
Yeah, they were there in the house.
He's like,
oh, I'll fucking come wherever I want.
I fucking come all over this place
with Franco.
Yeah. Danny McBride, that guy.
But. Oh, What was that
movie world's ending.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I you remember?
Yeah.
Danny McBride just being the biggest piece
of shit imaginable.
He's the best actor that.
God, just.
I mean, the worst.
Fuck you to.
That video from Scream
the Grudge and fucking her
are just saying Tamagotchi.
Yeah.
Yeah.
When you started saying that,
I remember that goddamn dude.
How is that?
And, Yamaha.
Suzuki.
Yeah. Come on. No.
I'm back.
Yeah,
I guess that was the same, you know, 2010.
Yeah, I it
and they're fucking putting the subtitles.
Like they're actually talking like.
That's right.
Yeah, yeah.
It's so funny.
You know, they never make that anymore
because it's racially insensitive.
It would offend all Oriental people.
Fucking Shane
Gillis got canceled for doing,
I never even heard it, but,
from what I gather,
doing an Asian impersonation.
Which is fucking hysterical.
Yeah.
So, like,
why are you doing a comedy show if you do?
Did you see him go on Saturday Night Live?
He hosted, oh.
And watch it since, you know,
I've been taken by the other side.
But, yeah, honestly,
like, I have found that I enjoy things
like that last time, just like.
Yeah,
I fucking see it now. That's the problem.
Yeah, but Shane goes on, I was
that was just listening to,
one of his podcasts
and generally speaking, good.
Dude, I watched a couple of the skits.
He is doing a
he's a, like, white middle aged dad
in Jamaica.
He clearly wrote this,
going to a Catholic ceremony,
and he gets like,
you know, taken by the Lord
and starts, you know, doing the Bomba clan
and like, all that shit.
So he was canceled.
I mean, it's just the funniest, like,
like, that's a joke.
He was canceled
for doing an Asian impersonation.
Two years later, goes to host.
He's become massively successful
and writes in a script
where he impersonates a black person.
Oh, Jesus.
This is looking fucking brutal.
It feels like, dude,
just look at that fucking flat
with this guy.
Yeah, with the glare on it.
Yeah, yeah, the fucking barometric
pressure is probably 33.
There.
Like, my face is melting. Oh.
And the lack of moving water.
That's what I'm saying.
Dude,
you can see dust settling on the water.
How many pictures
of giant lake fish
have you seen in front of this fence?
Honestly, dude, probably 1 or 2
only because, Well, there is thousands.
Yeah, I'm. I'm pretty.
Okay.
Maybe thousands might be pretty ruthless
on the for sure.
I also think I sort of red pilled myself
with social media.
Yeah.
I've been trying to do better
with like binge scrolling.
Yeah, it's kind of happened.
I didn't really realize what was
have just come off and sit this shit
like a tarpon eating a crab.
Dude.
Now just eating
a little fucking poor worm.
That is the munchkin.
That's the other thing I gotta figure out
what I'm gonna to do with this skin.
I mean, the thing.
Look at this little tell this.
Bebe. Bebe.
We should playing some tarpon dates. So.
Yeah.
And send it fully.
Dude, we could definitely go to the keys.
Or we can just wait till later
in the summer and go to Tampa Bay.
The guy fish with down
there told me a few.
That tarpon spot.
You probably know a bunch too, Dave.
Well, we could sit together.
My buddy will fucking hook.
Hook it up 3 or 4 days.
We can probably catch up again
pending a weather doesn't do. Yes.
Do you fish at all near Port Manatee?
Is that north?
It's back in the bay a little bit.
There's a big.
Oh, is that was the.
Yeah. Dude,
that shit kind of creeps me out.
But yeah,
I know you're talking about dredged out.
Yeah, I know I've never fish there,
but there's a flat right next to it.
You can see the depth on satellite.
Yes. Yeah.
It looks fucking sketchy as follows
and just goes into the open ocean.
Fuck, yeah.
But there's a big shelf there that
apparently the tarpon swim really good.
That month our God was poor.
I us across it.
It was in October and he was hoping
we'd see maybe a few left.
We did see some tarpon busting bait,
but it was like one.
They were all gone, but
like that
and I saw some fucking massive snot.
It just giant looked like striper 40s.
Yeah.
Probably over, I don't know,
they were maybe, though.
They were fucking huge.
I thought they were tarpon.
I thought a school
like three tarpon swimming,
so no snook.
When we got close to him, do they.
Let me cast him a bunch of times.
See, like, good cast. Right on. Nothing.
Just fuck you. Pass.
When I was in there, it's
like a wildlife preserve on the south
end of the bay down there.
Or maybe it's a park.
I don't know, moving through
there is where we saw them.
Some big, like, Spanish looking house.
Yeah. It is. What?
We'll have to look on a map
to confirm, but,
Dude, I've been
I've been all over that joint in
a, you know, rental Kia.
It's busy down there, Fuck.
That was the nice spot.
That's,
I think south of fucking Tampa Bay.
Me sick.
Bradenton is a little town.
Yeah, that's where Siesta Key.
That's where my boy lives.
I keep get smacked with hurricanes, Fuck,
yeah.
Last time we spoke,
he was actually supposed to come off here
and fish with me on October 24th.
I think he was up here, but we talked.
It was after Halloween and.
Yeah, it was like,
I don't know, those fish
look out in front of me, dive and see him.
He was right on that ledge, man.
That fucking ledge pisses me off.
Yeah, I still, every time I fish it,
I never fucking see anything there
ever.
Only one fish.
It also feels like hot.
Yeah, it no protection
does not feel good at all.
Some other shout out to fucking.
Shop owner John Le Ross.
Yes, I was down the other day.
He's got some good shit in there. Yep.
Can I pick up some saltwater stuff?
And I'll probably be his only customer
I did. I think I'll be open to it. Yeah.
I mean,
but at the same time, it's like he'll
throw you in on order whenever you want.
So it's like, fuck this. Like, you know.
Yeah.
And you got that,
cigar?
Yeah.
There's right here.
Whereas. Yes.
15. That's a good it's a good.
It's right there.
Yeah. Around 12.
You just smoke decorate too many trees.
You know.
So actually
I'm on a
sushi Yamaha.
Dude, I do want to put some shots on this.
Right.
Weed bed.
You're going to feed him that little jig?
Yeah, I like that.
See, there's any gators laying up
when this grass.
Down in front of that dock is where.
Phil, it was home that day.
We fish with. We fish that group.
Yeah, dude, God fucking had
a long interaction from a stud down there.
I'm a drunk right
here. Swinging day. Yeah.
Yes yes, yes, yes.
And he also fucking hammered one up there
and it came off.
I don't think he got a super good set
on, but the I was like, whoa.
Because I think aside from that
it was pretty tough.
I think we caught a few on bugs
or something.
That was a day that I believe
Rob horn told me that a couple of the
the goobers
got blanked.
Yeah, it was.
John was saying that
people have been coming in the shop
and complaining
that the fishing is not good anymore.
Citing that the guy traffic is the.
Driver behind,
But, you know, it's interesting.
It's like we're out here today.
How many private boats have we seen? One.
Everybody else. The fucking guy.
Yeah.
Yeah. Oh,
we have movement from something.
Oh, yeah.
Oh, yeah.
Oh, yeah. He's coming for it.
Peeled off?
Yeah. Did you see him?
Yeah, yeah, he went up to the right.
That was a good fish.
That was a good fish.
She's sick,
I guess.
Think 20 look like.
You picked him up early, Yeah.
Where do you come from?
The fucking.
The abyss.
Right in that trough.
You know, you.
My eyes are angry
with the sun.
Yeah, with this light level. Yeah.
It's just feels like.
It's just that punch. Yeah.
It's actually it's.
It affects.
I try to not let it,
but it does affect my mood a little bit.
For sure.
Well, it feels tiring.
Yeah, that's exactly right.
Well it's like it's,
you know for something in the afternoon.
Right.
When it is not.
See it?
High water.
I don't think I realized
how deep this actually is, because a lot
of these pockets, when it's super clear,
you'll see those giant fish laying in.
You'll be like, man,
they're not fucking reacting to me.
It's because they're.
They're still fucking
four feet deep now. Yeah.
It's like there's
another three feet of water on them
not getting down in their nose.
Oh, I feel good about this section.
And you.
The fish moving right there.
Yep. That.
Where you went
this.
Oh, it's a big to.
Where you going, bud?
Is go
a little shit little where you.
Yeah.
No jumbo jumbos.
Yeah.
You know.
Probably get some nice moving water.
Coming.
At John.
Twice the other day, for the first time.
She was very nice.
Here's.
It looks like there's
some mud stirred up up there, doesn't it?
I think we have a fucking mega over here.
See that?
Am I fly right?
Or am I fly to where?
All right.
Well, I'm. I'm feeling sticky now.
Or feeling sticky?
I don't know what's
going on that I've got.
It there's a little spring right there.
Yeah.
There was another one of those.
It's very interesting.
You could have been,
Possibly a mint tortuga.
Doug.
Blank.
Okay.
Maybe, but it'll.
I'm hand big dorado.
You know, fish with this kid? Nah.
Nah, man. Victor, I know that dude.
I speak that fucking fluently.
No wrong bird.
It's fucking, mate.
Fish.
This guy has a big turtle that
shoots,
his kid.
He runs this Wood Valley Travel company.
Have you ever seen them post things?
Now I'm see me,
but they pull the line out of my hands.
I was wondering if that was.
I think that might have been weeds,
but nothing was on the hook.
He's a nice kid, but fishing wise,
he's a little clueless, you know?
Yeah. Which is unfortunate.
Yeah, like very nice guy.
But it's like he wants to build this,
like, travel company to be this and that.
And he's, like, trying to host
all these trips to places he hasn't been.
And I'm like, dude,
you're not a good angler.
Like, why would I want to go on a trip
with no offense,
you know, versus other
one, a giant that was at first dinosaur.
Dude, the whole time we're
fishing, we're looking for permanent,
and there's turtles rolling over.
And every time he sees a turtle.
Dad, I mean, this is, like,
getting ridiculous.
He's like, right there.
The guy would be like,
nah, man, it's a turtle for two.
Galaga.
That's a big turtle, man.
Big white turtle.
But dude, all day
he's like their target, not turtle.
Oh, there's a big one in that hole. Well,
it's right at the back.
You see it right here?
He's coming up through.
Yeah.
So he was laying right at the back.
You could just see his little fucking head
sticking at.
It still some fish
hanging out around here.
None of the big big megaliths.
Megaliths.
We certainly would not discriminate
against any of those fellows. We.
Hell no.
No. River,
once when you start dropping the heart.
And where do what?
Babe.
I'm sorry.
I know it's on the news.
I look.
I can't help how she speaks to me.
Fish in that hole right there.
Is that paint bucket straight over
right towards the front of it.
I see a black shape.
I can't tell.
I think it might be grass.
Oh. Two.
Or two.
The back of it.
There's some of the back, too. Yeah.
That is.
I that is cool.
Scientific anglers line this, like, clear
camera, intermediate.
Just grass, I guess.
See? Like the glares.
Making this so hard to see to.
Yeah, like fuck.
Oh. Want me to blow your leaves,
On this next scene, spot number.
What's up?
Nothing.
You you already.
We're on what I was looking at.
You're already checking it out?
I couldn't see.
Beauty didn't
down the grass.
Listen to the woman, John.
Oh. Fuck. Now.
I almost feels like there's
like a haze on the water.
It was bad.
Oh, did there gas? One?
Not big right there. See him going?
It's about to go on top of the grass.
Right down.
Where did you get you?
Fuck you!
Nice Kiper. No.
Oh, he's laying right there.
See him?
Up. Down.
She down was not huge.
Another one of those same size
we've been seeing through there.
How about her,
Mr. Trout?
Oh, I see a shape
right there where you just casted.
Can't tell.
Right on that flat rock
straight in front of your face right
now, see?
Yep. Right. Just shadows.
Just shadows.
We're going to get fried
in one of these little buckets here.
Should I keep this blue thing on here?
I mean, anchoring you sweat. Yeah.
Yeah.
I'm going to take a
little of this fast water
before I switch up with you on it, dog.
Or on it? Fucking.
You want anything to drink?
Rinse the.
Rinse that flat out.
Saw a couple fish, though.
Yeah.
How about a Gatorade?
Oh, you give me the fucking poison.
Yeah, I'm giving you the sugar dog.
What kind of the.
The light blue
processed.
What is it?
What do you got? Ice storm.
Glacier. Freeze!
Oh, yeah.
Dude.
I'll fuck up a blue glacier.
Freeze! Mango.
Something real company.
Two hooks.
In. Mottled.
Oh. I also had the idea of this, like.
Start synthetically making food.
What do you mean?
Like, hey, trades.
Yeah, just like,
why do we think that, like, packaging up
grain in a bar,
being like, here's a bar in this bar.
Not natural.
You know?
What I know. Oh.
Princess poop.
Yeah.
Got a little peachy job in there.
Princess peach and sloppy tart.
Oh, Bowser, this is a freshie from today.
You tied that bitch today?
Yeah.
She's beautiful.
This is awesome.
Little craft for job.
That that is scientifically
a perfect description.
Little craft for Johnny.
I want him to eat
a giant fucking changer
sideways out through the water.
I just,
I feel that
I, it feels.
Hey, man.
If Russ Madden was here.
I just fish a jig. Fly
doing something.
Yeah.
I think you specifically have made.
Really insecure.
How? Well,
well, outside of being the man and
all the other stuff,
I mean, I guess how, What
what what are the towels? So.
When I was in Baron 21,
I told you actually I experienced was.
Yeah.
He was like, talking about YouTube
videos, like,
booked in clients
and this and that and all this shit,
but then, like, proceeded
to, like, basically say, like,
I'm never doing that again.
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